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The "Problem" With Men Here
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The "Problem" With Men Here Yes, this is a click-bait post. A provocative title that induces you to click on it so you can rant and rave. Man-hating is our favorite subject here. It never fails to produce enormous feedback – from both women and men. Honestly, tell me I’m wrong when I say this, but most of you people who clicked on it have already mentally prepared your responses. They all sound something like this: “Yes, men are crude and tasteless” “There should be intelligence tests before men should be allowed to use the site” “Men are ass-hats who should be castrated” No, this isn’t that post. Sorry ladies, but I’m breaking ranks here. I don’t get very many emails and IM’s that are crude. Of the very, very few that are like that, they are easily ignored without getting me all riled up. This is a subject that plagues the blogs here, yet isn’t nearly the problem it is made out to be. “That’s because you haven't posted a pic and you have only the vaguest of profiles” Yup. You are correct. That is exactly the reason I don’t get the same level of misogyny that you do. Those of you who are posting smut pictures of yourself are nothing less than attention-whores. And you got it, you got exactly the attention you were looking for. Yet you want to wine about it too. Can't have it both ways. I'll eventually do a better profile, but I'm still only just getting re-established here. “So you’re defending them?!? They are NEVER entitled to do that!” Correct again (You ladies are on a roll today! Good for you!). However, we’re not talking about what is just and appropriate, we’re talking about my level of sympathy for getting the single most expected reaction of all time. You decided to appeal the lowest class of society, then are somehow shocked that so many low class people come your way. Sorry, but that doesn’t induce any sympathy from me. You want to act like a porn star, but treated like a princess. And you lament how there aren’t enough guys willing to buy into that fantasy for you… please…. We’re adults here. Act like it. “You’re missing the point, they’re WRONG!” Ok, re-analyzing the situation… digging deep… nope, still not feeling any sympathy. You knew full well what would happen, and you decided to go through with it voluntarily. On some level, you want that response. It allows you to come here and hate on men so you can take some false sense of empowerment out of it. Deny it all you want, but I know why you’re here. You’re here to denigrate others so you can feel better about yourself. Yes, we do this as women. We’re not proud of it, but we all know we do it. “Ok Ms. Holier-Than-Thou, enlighten us as to what the problem really is? This should be fun.” As I said, the problem isn’t that men are crude. They’re just not. Most guys I talk to are decent and respectful. They honestly do care about not being offensive. The problem is that they’re boring beyond words! I’ll accept a chat invitation, talk for maybe a half an hour, and maybe only a dozen lines get exchanged. Dude, pick up the pace here. Figure out what you want to say. Get things moving. Then I’m stuck the next few days trying to figure out how to duck their subsequent chat requests without coming across as an angry feminazi. So, what to do?…. I resurrected my infoblog as to some of the techniques that I think will get you a lot further. If you want to see some of the stuff I’ve written in the past, google: “venusindisguise” blog (you’ll need the quotes). I also have additional information from an experiment I ran about making a male profile and seeing how good I actually am at this. It was enlightening. More on that to come. |
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5/25/2018 10:47 am |
Although very well written and true on some accounts, what you have written is not all entirely true or set in a mold to describe every woman who is here. I do see a lot of things wrong in your assumptions. "Attention-whores": First off, we're all not attention-whores here. This is an adult oriented web site, correct? By that logic, posting a pic of any sort, even male or female anatomy or "smut", is well within the realm of what's appropriate here. This typically isn't the Christian Singles or Matchmaker love site here, this is Meelp where a lot of people come for sexual interests ( but not all ). Nevertheless, very appropriate site to post such pics. It doesn't necessarily mean we're attention-whores because of that. In fact, I don't want the attention it brings me, but ultimately does. A pic is supposed to work in conjunction with your profile as a whole, to say that this is what I seek ( i.e. profile description ) and this is what some part / parts of me look like physically ( i.e. profile pics ). I cannot vouch for other women, I am sure there are some who are seeking attention by that, but a lot who are not, too. Those who aren't attention-whores whine about it because nobody reads our f*cking profile description! Instead people see a pic, then assume and base their entire chats on our media, rather than basing it on what we actually seek here via the description. "You want to act like a porn star, but treated like a princess...": Incorrect! Again, we're not all here to spread our legs to anyone. We're not all here for sex. I don't expect to be treated like a Princess, I just expect a balanced level of respect as I give to others here, and that's almost never there in return. If someone writes to me, I'm more than happy to respond to most people if they don't start off crude....however, it never seems to last very long with most people here before the conversation gets rude by them or I get ignored or retaliated on childishly due to other people's err. That's what we're talking about and the concept is simple. Give respect, get respect in a balanced manner. I'm not asking to be pampered or spoiled rotten in some way. Just treat me equally as kind and as respectful as I do you. Right, we're all adults here, yet very few act it. "Sympathy": This was mentioned several times by you here. We don't want sympathy. Again, we simply want to be treated with the same level as respect as we give. "Empowerment"? "Denigrate"? "Hate men"?: Nope! Nothing of the kind. Again, we ask for balance here as women. This means that if you write to me, you're a Gold member, you pursue me with all irrelevancy and everything you write to me contradicts what my profile entails, then this is not us pushing our authority around. I feel that people should be politely guided first, and if it persists with irrelevancy, then yes, criticizing is what the knuckleheads deserve if they have it coming to them. I mean, look...how much more simple of a concept is this whole thing here to follow? 1 .) Read profiles PRIOR to contacting someone. 2 .) Comprehend the information. 3. ) a.) If there's a reasonable level of compatibility as a match for what you seek vs. what you read, give a shout and take it from there. b. ) If there is NOT a reasonable level of compatibility or match between both parties, then there is no reason to make contact with that person whatsoever. Just move along to the next person and try again. This is Mickey Mouse protocol stuff here to understand, yet nearly nobody can comprehend and follow such a simple concept. This isn't us throwing our weight around on anyone, we don't typically "hate men" unless they do us dirty, again, we just seek balance and a clear understanding, but that never is there because too many people have their dicks out and cannot even recognize the difference that this site is NOT a porn site, but rather an adult personals / social media outlet. Until that level of mentality changes, I think we have good reason to grumble. "Low class society": True, this site is pretty much as low as it gets, as I have found out. Here's what I find odd: "You decided to appeal the lowest class of society, then are somehow shocked that so many low class people come your way." "As I said, the problem isn’t that men are crude. They’re just not. Most guys I talk to are decent and respectful. They honestly do care about not being offensive." So if this is the lowest class of society, then how is it that you're seemingly finding the highest class of society here? Because of your lack of profile pics and vague profile criteria? Come on, almost nobody even reads profiles to begin with. Men here are such pathetic and desperate clowns for the most part that they write to anyone for anything. I can't see how you're scoring almost no duds at all here who you have chatted with. "Boring beyond words!!": Yes, this often times says it all. Someone will contact me, I'll accept their IM/email and then they're completely vague, void of anything interesting and most times not even there or pre-occupied. Here's the problem...it's called the introduction to mobile technology. Way back when we were forced to chat pc to pc with one another, I would be able to hold chats for hours with people whom I'd have their complete and undivided attention with ( with the exception of a potty break, snack break or if they dozed off on me during a late night chat ). In came cell phones and mobile use to the scene and almost overnight everyone died! No longer did you have to sit at a pc, you can now be signed on to this site ( and other messengers like YIM )...half the time 24/7 and having no idea if someone is now ever around. Now, instead of being forced to sit at a pc to chat uninterrupted, we are now signed in while almost ALWAYS being INTERRUPTED at work, driving, shopping, errands, at the doctor's office, etc... Is it any wonder why the chat can never be meaningful anymore in this sense when almost everyone on this site is pre-occupied and yet in signed in and sneaking in a text once every 5, 10, 20 or 30 minutes?? No mystery in that. People can't "get the chat moving" when they are sneaking in a text while at work so the boss doesn't catch them, or who is driving, or who is texting at a waiting room but then the doctor call them to the room. Just too much pre-occupied nonsense here and mobile communications has destroyed what was once a good thing here. This gets overlooked so often and is something that almost nobody even mentions at all, yet is something that so many people hypocritically will describe as they use mobile, as well. Compare my lengthy comments ( using a pc here to do so ) vs. someone who chimes in using mobile. First off, typing all of this on a cell phone would be murder, hence, why the conversations often time are vague, lacking one-liners. Honestly, nothing meaningful can come out of communicating in that sense anymore. I'll politely close this up by saying that your blog was interesting, however, I found quite a few disagreements within it.
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Right again I did have a preconceived gripe. I'm going to blog about it as soon as I get it mathed out. I think I'm gonna do some of that here. Love the post by the way and would appreciate any feedback. You know what grinds my gears these women you so eloquently called out, and I'm only assuming they are the same ilk, are also fucking hypocrites. I'm not an asshole. I don't wave my dick in every woman's face. I'm respectful and I try to be charming. And what do I get. Crickets. WTF is that shit!? I feel like antagonizing a response with a lewd and demeaning messages but two wrongs don't make a right. Two wrongs? But we only see one. Well now I see three, because ignoring a person is abuse by omission, it's called neglect. It is a total disregard of another person. It shows a complete self centeredness that is every but a detrimental as any wrong doing they've subjected them selves to by coming to this site. And I am aware and to some degree sympathetic to the volume they must endure, but again what did you expect, and how long does it take to write Fuck off. So persistent as I am I try try again, therein further fueling they're self imposed crisis by adding the creeps that don't stop messaging them to their son story. Hey guess what suck a dick, you're not worth anything better. And the worst of the worst is when those overinflated I've princesses repeatedly visit my site. What you can take the time grease your fingers looking at my ridiculous dick pics your so sick of but you can't find time to say hello, thank you but no thank you or go the Fuck away? Yeah men are dogs and treat women like meat sometimes but the door swings both ways. Bitches got me trippin " The answer is there. But there is not a fixed position" my blog
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This was an interesting read, and I'm glad I came here. Even my mentor, pigcancook, approves of this post! Blog on! ^ . . ^ ( @ ) pigcancook Great Quotes By a Chauvinist Male
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I must quible...most people are boring in conversation not just men. People are interesting to observe but conversation takes thought and effort most are unwilling or unable to exert. Frankly, causal conversation IS an art-form and most have no training. “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.” ― Oscar Wilde
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What a good post. I fell for it, too. I do agree with you. I would say 99% of my interaction here is met with the utmost respect. Maybe it's my age, 'don't offend granny'  .The man bashing here is pretty rampant. Some do deserve it but I think most don't. I was called a cunt once by a 20 something, whom I declined. He's just young and dumb. A bot once. But, that is about it. It's still a good site to me.
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