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"Dating" is an Adult Word with Adult Meaning  

Heathen_G 65M
391 posts
6/27/2019 7:44 pm
"Dating" is an Adult Word with Adult Meaning

"Dating" is a word many seem to be confused about, and all too often used inappropriately.

For instance; when your year old has their first crush and wants to go together to the dance with their crush.
What do the parents say? For one thing they may say , "Enjoy your date". And that's how, "Dating" [to have sex], gets confused with , "Hanging ".

What was "Dating" before the concept of "Dating? ... Society used the word , "Courting". This was when sex, outside of legal marriage, was unacceptable. So a , "Courted", a female. They also called it, "Wooing" the woman.

Then what happened when sex was permissible outside of legal marriage? ...Men and women started, "Dating". A couple would go out and "Have sex". This is called , "Dating".

"Getting to know someone", is not "Dating", that's called, "Hanging out". Non sexual couple-activities is called, "Hanging out". Much less romantic, but much more accurate.

You do want to communicate better, don't you? So why not use the words of the times appropriately?

I googled, "What is the difference between dating and courting"... the answer given:

There Is A Difference Between Dating and Courting. ... Courtship is when a man is attempting to “woo” a woman, (to win her over) with the end result being marriage. Dating, by definition, is a social event whereby two people meet for companionship. This dating ritual is a part of the human mating process of the couple.Jul , 20.

So, "Meet", or ,"Hanging ", is what you do when getting to know someone.
"Dating", is a sexual activity.

What do prostitutes ask when they see a potential customer? They ask , "Do you want a date".

More proof , "Dating" means , "To have sex"? ... Ever been with a woman and she said, "This is not a date". What do you think she meant by that? Courting?
There won't be any sexual intimacy, you keep appropriate personal space distance away. ....Or you just off the "Date", and leave.

through some of the writings on this site.... Someone would mention they had a date the other night. They went to dinner and saw a movie. Then said ,"Nothing happened".

So it was intended to be a, "Date", to get some sex, but nothing happened. Was it still a "Date"? ... No. They just hung .


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/29/2019 12:36 pm

    Quoting  :

I still say you're trying to redefine "dating' to suit your own worldview. .... Not at all. Even the definition of "Date" corroborates what I have said.

(what a prostitute calls a date, as if somehow that makes hooking less illegal when you call it something else) .... No, it's still hypocritically illegal, because if you take a woman out and stupidly spend your money by giving it to a third person, in a sense you are still paying for sex [prostitution].

When a prostitute uses the word "Date", the prostitute is not using an euphemism. When you "Date" a woman, your intent is to have sex, or establish a sexual relationship. Bottom line... still you're looking for sex.

Just like not all courtships lead to marriage, not all dates lead to sex. ..... And there is no difference. A failed courtship , as a failed date, both mean there is no interest in becoming intimate with you, so the result [for both failures] results in a platonic situation. .... When someone asks you what happened, rightly you can say, "My intention was to date/court her, but we only just hung out".

Do you understand what happened there? .. A dating failure, or a courting failure , results in merely "Hanging out".

Yes, dating is used as a way to find a potential mate. .... Yes, certainly can be used that way. Or some folks say, "Casually dating", when they only want to have sex. Like if a prostitute wanted to use more words than necessary, she could ask you if you want to have a casual date.

At least one of the people is interested in sex. ... When only one is interested, this results in , "Hanging out" together. No sex = Not a date.

But the dating process isn't when you first have sex. ... Yes it is, because the "Intent" of "Dating" is to be able to have sex.

You keep preaching the mantra of sex first. .... "Sex first before friendship".... You don't want to start out platonic. In fact, if she was sexually attracted to you at all, there wouldn't be any "Friendship first". She would want to have sex with you.

You are thinking [ as many insecure men believe], you have to be her friend first. That is a tactical mistake. You then create a higher risk of losing her interest in you. You MUST make your intentions clear [up front] that your interest in her is sexual. If you invited her out on a date, you are telling her your interest in her is sexual.... now you have to make sure she understands this.

Women should not accept "Dates" is she has no sexual interest in the man asking her out on a date.

Women for the most part do not let just anyone in their bed, .... True. She only beds those men she wants to date [aka: have sex with].

they want to get to know a guy first. .... No she doesn't. If she tells a guy , "I have to get to know you better", most of the time she really has no sexual interest in him... She's not interested in dating him. Often she'll say, "Let's be friends". When that happens you have lost your chance at getting any sex with her.

And that [getting to know him] might take more than one date. .... No .. that will take more than one hanging out together. Dating is sexual. Hanging out is reconnaissance to see if there is sexual interest enough to go on a date [to have sex].... and this reconn only takes one [to three] times to make that determination. After 3 times , "Strike 3".... walks away. She doesn't want to have sex with you.

Sometimes it takes months. ... Ha.. don't hang out with her for months and months.... but if you do!!? Make sure you are dating other women during this time period.

Whereas guys really don't care ... No.. "Door mats" [wussies] , men with low self esteem, don't care.

Sure, you won't tolerate taking time, because you're not looking for anyone long term. .... No... .Long term or short term, I do not tolerate a woman wasting my life time, and no man should tolerate someone wasting his life time. "Hang out" with her at the absolute most only 3 times...... this is more than plenty of time to determine if she wants to "Date" you [have sex with you].


(which you call dates but they aren't). ... "Hooking up", is a date. As "Hanging out" is platonic.


Dating is for finding relationship potential. ... One use of "Dating", yes. But bottom line, "Dating" is about getting sex. Whether you want long term or short term.


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/28/2019 12:28 pm

    Quoting  :

Not my invention. Just social common sense. You invite a woman on a date, your intention is to see her naked. .....but if you invite a woman to hang out, your intention is platonic [and greatly a waste of your time while your penis still functions].

"Dating" is a form of prostitution, no confusion there. So is marriage a form of prostitution , for that matter. These are allowed to be legal because businesses profit from these forms. Also the old time "Courting" was a form of prostitution , because the intent was to take a woman as your wife.

Yes, "Hanging out" is a newer concept because out of necessity, we needed clarification for what you would "Call it" , when you don't get sex, when your intention was to "Date".

If you don't get sex from your "Intended date".... then you spent a platonic time together, so you were, "Hanging out". You can't call that a "Date" after a sexless time together. You were being platonic with each other.
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You never want to invite out a woman whom you're sexually interested in, on the grounds of , "Let's be friends"..... she has to understand you are sexually interested in her first.

On a first date you do lot more than kissing. Fairer to ask , "Do you kiss on the first meeting".

Sure, many first dates don't make it to a second one... but at least you got some sex that one time. Also many first meetings, never make it to a second meeting...... many first "Intended dates" that turn into [platonic] "Hanging out", never make to a "Date".

And sex never happened. But it wasn't "hanging out". .... It was "Hanging out" ... and a total waste of time.

Hanging out doesn't have the pretext of a romantic conclusion. ... That's why you intentionally "Hang out" with someone you are sexually interested in seeing. Also forget about "Romantic"...... She either wants to see you naked or she doesn't.... no need to put on a romantic performance to woo her into bed. Have more confidence in yourself.

Taking someone you just met out for dinner and a movie is generally not something you do for a platonic friendship. ... Don't do that. You shouldn't be taking anyone out to a dinner and movie [on your money] if you don't have an established intimate history [with the person]. What happens is , some guy wastes his money taking a woman to dinner and movie, but she tells him , this isn't a "Date" and she doesn't have sex with him..... now the doofus is out so much money, and she's just attempted a "Friendzone" on the guy. Time together was "Hanging out", totally platonic. No sex. Walk away.

Longer term friends might do that later on, .... Again if you want to "Friendzone" yourself with a woman, that's fine...but if you go hang out with her... she pays for her own stuff. Not you. Don't allow yourself to be used financially when she's not putting out for you [aka: no sexual history].

but how many people ask someone out for dinner and a movie to become pen pals? .... Exactly!! The intent is to "Date" her. Get her naked, have sex. But any man should to this without inviting her to dinner and a movie on his money. These men should stop being fools.
If a woman doesn't have any sexual interest in you, she should NEVER accept a "Date" with the guy. But of course there are women who know they have no sexual interest in him, but figures she can get food, drink and entertainment for free , by "Hanging out" with him.

Sure, there's the intent to form a romantic relationship with dating. .... The intent is to get her naked. The concept of the merger being "Romantic", is usually always for show , to get her naked. ..... IF she's interested in him sexually, there's no reason for the facade of romance.

And isn't the guy looking the fool , putting on a show of romance, only to be told , "This is not a date", [he doesn't get any sex, but he gets invited to be her friend she can use financially].

But what about folks that do go out and have sex on the first meeting. Was it a date? ... .Yes , it morphed into a "Date". There was the pleasant surprise of sex.

If the intent was one and done, that was a hookup. ... Yes.. that was "Hookup date". [Hello, sex, and good bye].

It might have been a date (dinner, movie, bang) .... If you're going to do the -dinner and movie - thing, the process goes..... "Bang" [first], then "Dinner and movie", best if she pays her own way.

or it might have been only a hookup (met in a bar, one night stand). ... That's still a "Hook up date".

But trying to redefine a date as a social meeting that results in sex? ... I'm not redefining "Date".

Ref: A form of romantic courtship typically between two individuals with the aim of assessing the other's suitability as a mate in an intimate relationship or as a spouse.

"Romantic courtship" and "Intimate relationship", are politically correct euphemisms for "Sex". Come on, think about it.... the dictionaries are carefully censored for family reading.

Look: If you follow "Romantic courtship" the definition tells you: " A courtship is a period in a romantic couple's relationship when they are dating. Most partners go through a courtship before deciding to get married."...... when they are having sex... having sex before marriage.

If you follow "Intimate relationship" the definition tells you: "an intimate relationship is commonly a sexual relationship,".

You're just trying to use a less edgy term in place of the correct one- hookups. ...."Hook up dates" are usually your one-and-done , those can be intended , or by failure of appropriate enough sexual connecting. Sometimes you have sex , and they or you, or both of you, decide , "The sex isn't so good, this isn't going to work". ..........But the intent was still a "Date", whether it worked or not.


tigger9595 55M
38 posts
6/27/2019 10:07 pm

Yes


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/27/2019 7:52 pm

This site, which ever you're on, is intended for people to eventually "Date", get together and have sex,..[..when they're sufficiently comfortable, of course.]

Meanwhile before that happens...it's a process, usually consisting of communicating, meeting and hanging out.... but sometimes , "Dating" happens at the first , "Meeting".

All the other social sites that are described under , "Dating sites".... the intention for you , is to eventually for you to have sex.


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